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IA, apprentissage, emploi et avenir du d\u00e9veloppement : trois experts r\u00e9pondent \u00e0 la question \u00ab Faut-il encore apprendre \u00e0 coder ? \u00bb.","_yoast_wpseo_title":"Faut-il encore apprendre \u00e0 coder avec l\u2019IA ? | Le Wagon","contenu_de_larticle":"<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Les agents IA transforment d\u00e9j\u00e0 la mani\u00e8re de concevoir des logiciels. Ils peuvent acc\u00e9l\u00e9rer consid\u00e9rablement certaines t\u00e2ches, mais aussi rester bloqu\u00e9s sur des d\u00e9tails \u00e9vidents pour un humain. Ils changent \u00e9galement l\u2019apprentissage, la collaboration et l\u2019organisation du travail dans les \u00e9quipes technologiques.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Alors, faut-il encore apprendre \u00e0 coder ? <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lewagon.com\/events\/faut-il-encore-apprendre-a-coder-l-ia-dans-les-equipes-tech-entre-promesses-et-realites-sxe8ja\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Le Wagon Canada a r\u00e9uni trois invit\u00e9s pour confronter les promesses de l\u2019IA aux r\u00e9alit\u00e9s du terrain<\/a>. La discussion \u00e9tait mod\u00e9r\u00e9e par Jean-Fran\u00e7ois Berthiaume, alumni Le Wagon Canada.\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b>Nos invit\u00e9s:<\/b>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Francis Lacoste, VPE &amp; CTO Coach | ex-Salesforce, ex-Heroku<\/span><\/li>\r\n \t<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Eric Cappannelli, Consultant automatisation &amp; BI, Cappasoft<\/span><\/li>\r\n \t<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Antoine Ayoub, co-fondateur, Le Wagon Canada<\/span><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n&nbsp;\r\n\r\n<i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">NDLR: Les \u00e9changes ont \u00e9t\u00e9 condens\u00e9s et regroup\u00e9s par th\u00e8me pour faciliter la lecture, dans le respect des propos tenus.<\/span><\/i>\r\n<h2><b>1. Quelle image d\u00e9crit le mieux l\u2019\u00e9tat actuel de l\u2019IA dans les \u00e9quipes tech ?<\/b><\/h2>\r\n<b>Francis Lacoste :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Pour moi, l\u2019IA ressemble \u00e0 un jetpack. Elle permet d\u2019aller tr\u00e8s vite et de voler, mais peut aussi nous faire foncer dans un mur si on ne fait pas attention.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b>Eric Cappannelli :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> J\u2019utilise l\u2019image de rails de chemin de fer en construction. On b\u00e2tit les fondations de quelque chose qui nous permettra d\u2019aller beaucoup plus vite, sans encore savoir exactement comment. Pour une PME, le pi\u00e8ge serait de croire que le train est d\u00e9j\u00e0 l\u00e0 ou, au contraire, que l\u2019IA est seulement une nouvelle b\u00e9belle.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b>Antoine Ayoub :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Je parlerais de sables mouvants. Le terrain commence \u00e0 se stabiliser, mais un outil qui sort aujourd\u2019hui peut devenir obsol\u00e8te demain. C\u2019est pr\u00e9occupant, mais aussi stimulant : il faut r\u00e9apprendre certaines choses et repenser sa mani\u00e8re de travailler.<\/span>\r\n<h2><b>2. L\u2019IA tient-elle ses promesses dans la pratique ?<\/b><\/h2>\r\n<b>Eric Cappannelli :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> L\u2019exp\u00e9rience alterne entre de gros effets \u00ab wow \u00bb et de grands moments de solitude. Dans certains projets, le syst\u00e8me peut prioriser les t\u00e2ches, v\u00e9rifier l\u2019avancement et consulter le code. C\u2019est un peu comme avoir une personne junior \u00e0 c\u00f4t\u00e9 de moi, dont je r\u00e9vise le travail.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Mais l\u2019IA peut aussi rester bloqu\u00e9e pendant des heures sur des d\u00e9tails simples. Pour produire une piste audio avec un accent qu\u00e9b\u00e9cois convaincant, j\u2019ai pass\u00e9 plus de temps \u00e0 ajuster le texte et les intonations que si je l\u2019avais fait lire par un artiste. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">R\u00e9cemment, sur un projet moyennement complexe r\u00e9unissant plusieurs technologies, j\u2019ai pr\u00e9f\u00e9r\u00e9 repartir d\u2019une page blanche plut\u00f4t que de continuer \u00e0 \u00ab patcher \u00bb une base qui partait dans la mauvaise direction. \u00c0 ce moment-l\u00e0, l\u2019IA m\u2019avait fait perdre plus de temps qu\u2019elle ne m\u2019en avait fait gagner.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00c0 l\u2019inverse, j\u2019ai presque enti\u00e8rement automatis\u00e9 la production de mes feuilles de temps, leur synchronisation avec les outils de mes clients et une partie de la facturation. Je peux maintenant consacrer ce temps \u00e0 leur apporter davantage de valeur.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b>Francis Lacoste :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Certaines personnes exp\u00e9riment\u00e9es en d\u00e9veloppement ont essay\u00e9 l\u2019IA l\u2019ann\u00e9e pass\u00e9e, obtenu de mauvais r\u00e9sultats et conserv\u00e9 cette premi\u00e8re impression.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">La conversation change lorsqu\u2019elles vivent ce que certains appellent un \u00ab Claude Code moment \u00bb. Un projet int\u00e9ressant, pour lequel on n\u2019avait jamais pris le temps, se r\u00e9alise soudain en deux heures avec une qualit\u00e9 surprenante. On se dit alors : \u00ab OK, c\u2019est un nouveau monde. \u00bb<\/span>\r\n<h2><b>3. Comment l\u2019IA transforme-t-elle le travail dans les \u00e9quipes ?<\/b><\/h2>\r\n<b>Francis Lacoste :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Les usages restent tr\u00e8s diff\u00e9rents au sein d\u2019une m\u00eame \u00e9quipe. Certaines personnes pilotent plusieurs agents, d\u2019autres utilisent surtout l\u2019IA comme outil d\u2019autocompl\u00e9tion, tandis que d\u2019autres ne veulent encore rien savoir de ces outils.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">On commence \u00e0 voir trois mod\u00e8les. Dans le mod\u00e8le \u00ab Iron Man \u00bb, une personne utilise plusieurs agents de mani\u00e8re individuelle. Dans le mod\u00e8le partag\u00e9, chaque membre travaille s\u00e9par\u00e9ment, mais l\u2019\u00e9quipe met en commun ses m\u00e9thodes et ses ressources. Enfin, dans le mod\u00e8le \u00ab multijoueur \u00bb, encore rare, plusieurs personnes collaborent avec des agents sur un m\u00eame projet.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">La gestion des connaissances devient alors essentielle : comment faire circuler les d\u00e9couvertes individuelles pour permettre \u00e0 toute l\u2019\u00e9quipe de progresser ?<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b>Eric Cappannelli :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Il faut aussi parler de l\u2019\u00e9puisement li\u00e9 \u00e0 la surutilisation des agents. On peut avoir une id\u00e9e le matin et la mettre en production l\u2019apr\u00e8s-midi. La machine n\u2019a pas de limite, mais nous, on en a. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Lorsque plusieurs t\u00e2ches avancent en parall\u00e8le, on fait constamment du multit\u00e2che et on change de contexte sans arr\u00eat. Certaines personnes ont d\u00e9j\u00e0 frapp\u00e9 un plafond en mati\u00e8re de fatigue. Il faut donc conserver une rigueur et une bonne hygi\u00e8ne de travail.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Une autre comp\u00e9tence devient obligatoire : la d\u00e9l\u00e9gation. Quand on obtient un bon r\u00e9sultat avec l\u2019IA, c\u2019est que l\u2019on a bien r\u00e9ussi \u00e0 lui d\u00e9l\u00e9guer la t\u00e2che. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Il faut savoir ce que l\u2019on fait, puis apprendre \u00e0 \u00ab faire faire \u00bb. Avec un agent, il faut expliquer quoi faire, anticiper certains probl\u00e8mes, puis indiquer comment proc\u00e9der et v\u00e9rifier le r\u00e9sultat. C\u2019est comme travailler avec un stagiaire ou une personne junior. Il y a l\u00e0 un v\u00e9ritable d\u00e9fi humain et un nouvel apprentissage.<\/span>\r\n<h2><b>4. Comment former les futurs seniors et pr\u00e9server l\u2019apprentissage ?<\/b><\/h2>\r\n<b>Francis Lacoste :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> La formation de la prochaine g\u00e9n\u00e9ration de seniors est un v\u00e9ritable enjeu et il n\u2019existe pas encore de bonne r\u00e9ponse. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">L\u2019exp\u00e9rience permet de d\u00e9velopper le \u00ab smell test \u00bb : l\u2019intuition qui fait sentir qu\u2019un projet part dans la mauvaise direction. On peut l\u2019acqu\u00e9rir seul, mais cela prend du temps. Le mentorat et le compagnonnage permettent d\u2019apprendre plus rapidement.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Une piste serait de remettre au go\u00fbt du jour le pair programming - la programmation en bin\u00f4me - avec un LLM (Large Language Model). Une personne junior pourrait piloter l\u2019outil pendant qu\u2019une personne senior lui indique les zones \u00e0 surveiller. Ce mod\u00e8le reste toutefois peu pratiqu\u00e9.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b>Antoine Ayoub :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Les LLM peuvent aider \u00e0 apprendre, mais il faut \u00e9viter qu\u2019ils remplacent le travail du cerveau. Une utilisation excessive ou inad\u00e9quate risque d\u2019affaiblir ce muscle. Dans une formation intensive, certains d\u00e9clics sont essentiels \u00e0 l\u2019acquisition des fondamentaux.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">C\u2019est un peu comme prendre une Formule 1 pour aller chercher une baguette. Si on demande \u00e0 un LLM de r\u00e9diger un contrat dans un domaine que l\u2019on ne ma\u00eetrise pas, il peut produire quelque chose de tr\u00e8s intelligible, mais d\u2019une grande complexit\u00e9. Cette surabondance devient \u00e9puisante lorsqu\u2019on ne sait plus comment naviguer dans la r\u00e9ponse. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">La m\u00eame chose arrive en formation : une question simple peut recevoir une r\u00e9ponse compliqu\u00e9e, alors que le cours avait pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment rendu le concept accessible.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Je reste aussi persuad\u00e9 de la valeur de l\u2019accompagnement humain. Lorsqu\u2019on d\u00e9couvre un domaine, il est difficile de demander quelque chose que l\u2019on ne conna\u00eet pas ou de construire seul une formation coh\u00e9rente. J\u2019ai moi-m\u00eame davantage progress\u00e9 en quelques mois avec mon professeur de ukul\u00e9l\u00e9 qu\u2019en essayant d\u2019apprendre seul pendant plusieurs ann\u00e9es.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Plus tard dans la discussion, Francis revient sur la pens\u00e9e critique.<\/span><\/i>\r\n\r\n<b>Francis Lacoste :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Elle se d\u00e9veloppe en pratiquant, en r\u00e9visant son travail et en faisant valider sa critique. Les LLM peuvent contribuer \u00e0 cet exercice : un agent produit le code et d\u2019autres l\u2019examinent sous diff\u00e9rents angles. Mais si on ne pratique pas soi-m\u00eame cette pens\u00e9e critique, on ne peut pas la d\u00e9l\u00e9guer.<\/span>\r\n<h2><b>5. Quelles comp\u00e9tences garderont de la valeur ?<\/b><\/h2>\r\n<b>Francis Lacoste :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Les LLM permettent d\u2019automatiser les t\u00e2ches que l\u2019on est capable de bien d\u00e9finir, ou de les r\u00e9aliser en collaboration avec l\u2019IA. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Cette \u00e9volution concerne aussi les sp\u00e9cialistes du produit ou du design, qui peuvent cr\u00e9er rapidement des prototypes gr\u00e2ce au vibe coding, soit le fait de d\u00e9crire en langage naturel ce que l\u2019on souhaite construire. Ces prototypes peuvent servir \u00e0 valider une id\u00e9e avant d\u2019\u00eatre confi\u00e9s \u00e0 une \u00e9quipe de d\u00e9veloppement, qui pourra les refaire de mani\u00e8re robuste et fiable.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b>Eric Cappannelli :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Le vibe coding me rappelle ce qu\u2019Excel ou Access avaient permis \u00e0 une autre \u00e9poque. Des personnes proches du m\u00e9tier peuvent transformer leurs connaissances et leur expertise en code informatique.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b>Antoine Ayoub :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Ce que les personnes ont appris dans leur parcours professionnel devient encore plus important. On peut combiner son exp\u00e9rience pass\u00e9e avec de nouvelles comp\u00e9tences techniques fondamentales. Les mod\u00e8les peuvent ensuite nous aider \u00e0 aller plus loin.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b>Francis Lacoste :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Je ne pense pas que l\u2019IA change fondamentalement les qualit\u00e9s d\u2019une bonne personne en d\u00e9veloppement. On recherche toujours de la curiosit\u00e9, une capacit\u00e9 \u00e0 apprendre et \u00e0 r\u00e9soudre des probl\u00e8mes, une compr\u00e9hension du domaine et de l\u2019empathie envers les utilisateurs.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Dans un contexte professionnel, la valeur ne vient pas du code pris isol\u00e9ment, mais du probl\u00e8me qu\u2019il permet de r\u00e9soudre. J\u2019appr\u00e9cie le beau code et les architectures \u00e9l\u00e9gantes, mais si cela ne r\u00e9sout aucun probl\u00e8me d\u2019affaires, la valeur reste limit\u00e9e.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00c0 la fin du panel, un participant demande si les tests techniques restent pertinents en entretien.<\/span><\/i>\r\n\r\n<b>Francis Lacoste :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Pour moi, le r\u00e9sultat d\u2019un exercice compte moins que la capacit\u00e9 \u00e0 parler de ce qui a \u00e9t\u00e9 fait, \u00e0 expliquer sa r\u00e9flexion et \u00e0 montrer sa capacit\u00e9 \u00e0 apprendre. Une biblioth\u00e8que importante aujourd\u2019hui peut changer dans six mois ou deux ans. Les connaissances g\u00e9n\u00e9rales et les comp\u00e9tences transversales restent donc les plus importantes en entretien.<\/span>\r\n<h2><b>6. Alors, faut-il encore apprendre \u00e0 coder ?<\/b><\/h2>\r\n<b>Eric Cappannelli :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Oui, mais plus pour tr\u00e8s longtemps. C\u2019est un peu comme passer son permis sans devenir m\u00e9canicien. Je pense que le Far West actuel finira par s\u2019industrialiser et que nous ne sommes pas loin d\u2019avoir des syst\u00e8mes plus autonomes pour le codage. On peut toutefois faire des paris sur le moment o\u00f9 cela arrivera.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b>Antoine Ayoub :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Oui. Sans connaissances fondamentales, on ne peut pas d\u00e9velopper un v\u00e9ritable esprit critique face \u00e0 ce que produit un LLM. Copier et coller des r\u00e9ponses dans un domaine que l\u2019on ne comprend pas devient vite \u00ab tannant \u00bb et peu satisfaisant.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b>Francis Lacoste :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Oui, comme il faut apprendre \u00e0 \u00e9crire, mais pas n\u00e9cessairement pour devenir \u00e9crivain. Il faut apprendre \u00e0 coder pour pouvoir comprendre, lire et r\u00e9fl\u00e9chir, tout en sachant que \u00ab le m\u00e9tier, ce ne sera pas de coder \u00bb.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.lewagon.com\/events\/faut-il-encore-apprendre-a-coder-l-ia-dans-les-equipes-tech-entre-promesses-et-realites-sxe8ja\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Voir ou revoir la discussion<\/a>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Pour aller plus loin: <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.lewagon.com\/career\/i-want-to-learn-ai\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">lire \"I want to learn AI\"<\/a>.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Vous souhaitez acqu\u00e9rir les fondamentaux n\u00e9cessaires pour construire avec l\u2019IA et \u00e9valuer ce qu\u2019elle produit ? <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lewagon.com\/montreal\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">D\u00e9couvrez les bootcamps de Le Wagon Canada<\/a>.\r\n\r\n<\/span>","_contenu_de_larticle":"field_6412588b55814","titre_de_la_banniere":"","_titre_de_la_banniere":"field_6422eb732c237","paragraphe_de_la_banniere":"","_paragraphe_de_la_banniere":"field_6422ed834a968","intitule_du_bouton_de_la_banniere":"","_intitule_du_bouton_de_la_banniere":"field_6422ed934a969","lien_du_bouton_de_la_banniere":"","_lien_du_bouton_de_la_banniere":"field_6422eda54a96a","yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v28.4 (Yoast SEO v28.5) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Faut-il encore apprendre \u00e0 coder avec l\u2019IA ? | Le Wagon<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Agents IA, apprentissage, emploi et avenir du d\u00e9veloppement : trois experts r\u00e9pondent \u00e0 la question \u00ab Faut-il encore apprendre \u00e0 coder ? \u00bb.\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" 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